Texas snow goose management meeting

[aTm8]

I know that there are very few people here that still chase them, but there is a meeting in Richmond next week that I and a few other will be attending. I am sure those who have Facebook have already seen this.

Will report back next week with a recap.

Let me know if anyone here will be attending.

News Release
Media Contacts: TPWD Press Office, 512-389-8030, news@tpwd.texas.gov;
Nov. 1, 2023The Future of Light Goose Harvest Management in TexasAUSTIN — At two upcoming scoping meetings along the Gulf Coast, Texas Parks and Wildlife Department will seek public comment on the future of light goose harvest management in Texas.Historically, Texas coastal prairies and marshes were home to one of North America’s largest wintering populations of light geese. Light geese can be defined as snow geese (white and blue phases) and Ross’s geese. Due to a variety of reasons, including habitat loss, changes in agricultural practices, increase in hunting pressure and regulations, the Texas Gulf Coast no longer winters a significant number of light geese. Additionally, the mid-continent population of light geese are now experiencing an unprecedented large-scale population decline across North America. Wintering abundances, hunter numbers and hunter success are now at all-time lows in Texas.TPWD wildlife staff encourage public attendance and commentary at the following meetings:Nov. 8, 6 - 8 p.m., Long Acres Ranch, 2335 Richmond Pkwy., Richmond, TX, 77469, https://longacresranch.orgNov. 9, 6 - 8 p.m., El Campo Civic Center, 2350 N. Mechanic St., El Campo, TX, 77437Comments and questions can be submitted to kevin.kraai@tpwd.texas.gov.

[DUKFVR]

Limit 5 a day. Run concurrent with duck season is what I suggested.

[aTm8]

Limit 5 a day. Run concurrent with duck season is what I suggested.

Wouldn’t change anything. We couid lower mallard limits to zero and it wouldn’t change their numbers on the prairie.

The public comments at this meeting may be interesting as kraai and flyway council seem to keep operating on feelings rather than scientific data.

Then there is the data itself (the mid winter index) that is not particularly accurate in my opinion. It’s also isn’t telling the whole truth. As meeting title reads it’s about light goose populations in Texas, yet we really don’t take into account that there’s a decent amount of geese outside the coastal zones.

Whole bunch of other stuff to unpack in the snow goose stuff.

[BlueGoose]

Wouldn’t change anything. We couid lower mallard limits to zero and it wouldn’t change their numbers on the prairie.

The public comments at this meeting may be interesting as kraai and flyway council seem to keep operating on feelings rather than scientific data.

Then there is the data itself (the mid winter index) that is not particularly accurate in my opinion. It’s also isn’t telling the whole truth. As meeting title reads it’s about light goose populations in Texas, yet we really don’t take into account that there’s a decent amount of geese outside the coastal zones.

Whole bunch of other stuff to unpack in the snow goose stuff.

We get a lot of snow geese up here in the panhandle. Some years more than others. I watched several thousand in a feed field two years ago. More than I have ever seen up here in the same place. Didn't matter, couldn't get on it.

What is the current limit? Is it still 20, or did they drop it to 10? We don't really target them up here, so I haven't paid that much attention to what's going on with them. Usually if we get some, it's one or two birds that happened to be mixed in with darks.

[Wigeon Kryptonite]

Wouldn’t change anything. We couid lower mallard limits to zero and it wouldn’t change their numbers on the prairie.

The public comments at this meeting may be interesting as kraai and flyway council seem to keep operating on feelings rather than scientific data.

Then there is the data itself (the mid winter index) that is not particularly accurate in my opinion. It’s also isn’t telling the whole truth. As meeting title reads it’s about light goose populations in Texas, yet we really don’t take into account that there’s a decent amount of geese outside the coastal zones.

Whole bunch of other stuff to unpack in the snow goose stuff.

The index itself may not be real accurate as a population number, but if they collect the data for the index number the same way every year, the index will be a good representation of the population trend from year to year.


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[DUKFVR]

Wouldn’t change anything. We couid lower mallard limits to zero and it wouldn’t change their numbers on the prairie.

The public comments at this meeting may be interesting as kraai and flyway council seem to keep operating on feelings rather than scientific data.

Then there is the data itself (the mid winter index) that is not particularly accurate in my opinion. It’s also isn’t telling the whole truth. As meeting title reads it’s about light goose populations in Texas, yet we really don’t take into account that there’s a decent amount of geese outside the coastal zones.

Whole bunch of other stuff to unpack in the snow goose stuff.

Thats right. Birds have shifted flyways & probably won't be back. No reason to with loss of habitat & hunting pressure to compound it. No reason to pound what is here though . Cut the limits & give them a break. I have no problem with a CO season. Just make it a 5 bird limit. I wish they would cut duck limits to give them a break too. Would it help I don't know,but it wouldn't hurt. The days of the big hero pics are past due to end,just to give some people and shit ass outfitters a big chest.

[aTm8]

How many goose hunts during regular season are averaging over 5 light geese per shooter?

[Quackerbox]

So we've gone from kill em all by any means necessary to oh shit where are the white geese at??

In like 10 years?

Loss of habitat and no agriculture. Plain and simple

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[burns_312]

There’s a NWR near me, not Cheyenne Bottoms, that held 6 figures worth of dark geese year in and year out 20-30 years ago. That’s been replaced with 2x as many snow geese that winter there and it’s pushed all the dark geese out.


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[El Gato]

There’s a NWR near me, not Cheyenne Bottoms, that held 6 figures worth of dark geese year in and year out 20-30 years ago. That’s been replaced with 2x as many snow geese that winter there and it’s pushed all the dark geese out.


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fuckin racists

[Spoonbilla]

Thats right. Birds have shifted flyways & probably won't be back. No reason to with loss of habitat & hunting pressure to compound it. No reason to pound what is here though . Cut the limits & give them a break. I have no problem with a CO season. Just make it a 5 bird limit. I wish they would cut duck limits to give them a break too. Would it help I don't know,but it wouldn't hurt. The days of the big hero pics are past due to end,just to give some people and shit ass outfitters a big chest.

Theyll just bring 60 ppl instead of 30 so the piles can be just as big.

[BlueGoose]

There’s a NWR near me, not Cheyenne Bottoms, that held 6 figures worth of dark geese year in and year out 20-30 years ago. That’s been replaced with 2x as many snow geese that winter there and it’s pushed all the dark geese out.


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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess Quivira?

[Elpatoloco]

You outfitters just need to petition to get Hagerman Wildlife Refuge opend up for yall to guide on. Sorry your flyway shifted. Tell them it has really cut into your bottom line and actually cry a little bit. It might work.

Pro Tip: show up on Doe's Mini Bike. Make sure the electrical tape is showing real good, so they will feel more sorry for ya. When it works, donate a brand new bike for Doe's boy to ride.

[JHerr]

Who gives a shit about snow grease

[burns_312]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess Quivira?

Negative


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