Looks like "we" might have a recession this time

[Greenheadless]

he gets paid by the taxpayers

he won't suffer

fify

[Greenheadless]

I wish they would come finish thin cutting my tract. They dunn rundt off ‘cause da mill don want no mo.

[Tmac3]

Where are you located? Southeast texas stumpage is much better than that currently. IP closing is going to hurt the market though.
I made $5 ton on a private tract I sold on both hardwood and pine.
I work for a large timber investor and pine has been pretty close to what it has been for 15-16 years. Hardwood changes much more but most of time you can make at least $3-$4 a ton. Wasn’t long ago we were making $10-$15 on hardwood pulpwood.

You sound like you know way more about the timber and wood business than the average FFDA, how is the Bioenergy Plant in Bon Weir effecting the economy up there, or did that ever get built?

[Greenheadless]

You sound like you know way more about the timber and wood business than the average FFDA, how is the Bioenergy Plant in Bon Weir effecting the economy up there, or did that ever get built?

As you know I dabble in the energy side of the business. Last I heard, they were still trying to to get an FID on the project.. no engineering has even started.

[BlueGoose]

You sound like you know way more about the timber and wood business than the average FFDA, how is the Bioenergy Plant in Bon Weir effecting the economy up there, or did that ever get built?

Ffda? Fowler forum dumb ass?

[ReaPeR105]

Y'all giving Runnin' a hard time for his thoughts but he's pretty right on. Orange and the surrounding will see a decrease in spending when 1400 people get laid off. Lufkin went through it when our papermill and one of the big foundries shut down within a couple of years. Lufkin recovered pretty well but it changed a lot for a few years. Something like this pretty localized but if affects all those businesses who serviced the mill's needs too. Big ripple effect in the county, probably not too much out of it.

[Runnin' 87]

IP has been a very possible part of our community....and I don't mean just taxes. Eleven though they are 30% of the Little Cypress Mauriceville ISD budget.

IP were big players going above and beyond for United Way, donating to other community needs, ect.

If something needed volunteers, like unloading truck of disaster supplies or providing board members for non profits. They were there.

They are going to be missed.

[Runnin' 87]

Did some Google research today. IP just opened a fiberboard mill in China. Next, another group opened the largest fiberboard mill in China last year our so. The Nine Dragons Facility.

Thanks Brandon. Selling out Americans.

[El Pollo Loco]

Hard pill to swallow for Orange. I have lots of friends that work at both who are mid career, going to be a pretty decent hurdle for them.

[Spoonbilla]

Hard pill to swallow for Orange. I have lots of friends that work at both who are mid career, going to be a pretty decent hurdle for them.

Feel bad for those guys.

[Spoonbilla]

IP has been a very possible part of our community....and I don't mean just taxes. Eleven though they are 30% of the Little Cypress Mauriceville ISD budget.

IP were big players going above and beyond for United Way, donating to other community needs, ect.

If something needed volunteers, like unloading truck of disaster supplies or providing board members for non profits. They were there.

They are going to be missed.

Anyone who gives to united way is an idiot anyway.

[Runnin' 87]

Anyone who gives to united way is an idiot anyway.

So tell me why?

[Agduckhunter]

So tell me why?

Do a search for what percentage of charitable donations actually go to charitable causes.

[Spoonbilla]

Do a search for what percentage of charitable donations actually go to charitable causes.

Duh

[Runnin' 87]

I know this about our chapter. One full time, one part time, and one volunteer (industry provided). The salaries are "fund raised" through events. Full disclosure, salaries and expenses are paid through this event. Duling pianos is the big one for us.

Outright donations like the payroll deduction stuff, and other donations go 100% to charitable agencies we support.

Ours operates at just over $1 million per year.

What United Way does is vet the various service agencies who receive the funds. They submit financials, we make sight visits, and they have to show up before the board and answer questions about their agency. We say "No" alot. My standard is if I ended up at Rotary Club and and someone asked me to explain where their money went. Would I be ashamed to answer.

Now me, I can't make heads or tails of a financial report. But the accountabts that serve on the board can. I can smell bullshit in an interview. I can see bullshit on a sight visit.

Actually, your local United Way is the safest place to make a donation. If you are so inclined. If not...blah I don't care.

I'm on my second year of a three year stent on the board of directors of our local United Way. I used to think it was bullshit too. I thought I would just go to a monthly meeting, make motions, vote and go home. They actually keep me busy on my days off doing real stuff. I'm either visiting a donor charity, going through some report, reviewing policies for the local UW, ect.